Block russian access to the service, Remove onion service, Implement blocking for VPN, proxies and onion users #46

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opened 2022-02-25 12:57:16 +01:00 by kreyren · 13 comments

I am contribution to, working and using FLOSS for ~14 years with the knowledge that Russia uses Linux and Free Software in pretty much everything so I am convinced that code that i wrote was used to help russians in the invasion of ukraine.. I feel sick and guilty because of it and i want to do anything possible to prevent such use in the future to not feel like i have a blood on my hands.

Thus proposing here to:

  1. Remove the onion service
  2. Implement active blocking for:
    2.1. Russian IPs
    2.2. Onion users
    2.3. VPNs
    2.4. Proxies

To prevent russians from using my code in the future

I am contribution to, working and using FLOSS for ~14 years with the knowledge that Russia uses Linux and Free Software in pretty much everything so I am convinced that code that i wrote was used to help russians in the invasion of ukraine.. I feel sick and guilty because of it and i want to do anything possible to prevent such use in the future to not feel like i have a blood on my hands. Thus proposing here to: 1. Remove the onion service 2. Implement active blocking for: 2.1. Russian IPs 2.2. Onion users 2.3. VPNs 2.4. Proxies To prevent russians from using my code in the future
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Exploring the option to distribute onion keys so that only selected people have access to the service

Exploring the option to distribute onion keys so that only selected people have access to the service
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One option is to provide a private V3 onion service and then distribute keys to trusted users

https://matt.traudt.xyz/posts/2019-01-19-creating-private-v3-onion-services/

https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/issues/29134

One option is to provide a private V3 onion service and then distribute keys to trusted users https://matt.traudt.xyz/posts/2019-01-19-creating-private-v3-onion-services/ https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/issues/29134
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... i don't find that being a sustainable as it would need a lot of management though

... i don't find that being a sustainable as it would need a lot of management though
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Short answer: No.
Long answer: You are more than welcome to pack up and move your stuff anywhere else.

Short answer: No. Long answer: You are more than welcome to pack up and move your stuff anywhere else.
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while I indeed am a vocal 'FCKPTN' (I say 'FUCK YOU, PUTIN!' every day before breakfast.) team member, blocking russian IPs is not really feasible here, nor is it a solution to your problem, really.

To prevent russians from using my code in the future

to aid you with this, perhaps don't license your software as 'free software' (or 'open source') in the future, instead pick a license, which allows you to forbid certain parties from using it based on arbitrary criteria that you make up ad hoc (I kid you not, such licenses do exist). I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms and stuff to precisely anybody and everybody, including the fuckhead likes of Putin. if you don't like that @kreyren, you should not be using such licenses for your code.

to conclude and just to be perfectly clear about where my option lies, go 🇺🇦 Ukraine 🇺🇦!

while I indeed am a vocal **'FCKPTN'** (I say 'FUCK YOU, PUTIN!' every day before breakfast.) team member, blocking russian IPs is not really feasible here, nor is it a solution to your problem, really. > To prevent russians from using my code in the future to aid you with this, perhaps don't license your software as 'free software' (or 'open source') in the future, instead pick a license, which allows you to forbid certain parties from using it based on arbitrary criteria that you make up ad hoc (I kid you not, such licenses do exist). I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the *4 freedoms and stuff* to precisely anybody and *everybody*, including the fuckhead likes of Putin. if you don't like that @kreyren, you should not be using such licenses for your code. to conclude and just to be perfectly clear about where my option lies, go 🇺🇦 Ukraine 🇺🇦!
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p.s. somebody once said "pics or it didn't happen"
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p.s. somebody once said "pics or it didn't happen" ![image](/attachments/7e152084-ee5b-4b98-ac96-165470238f28)
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I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms

Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies so you can help your neighbour

Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them

> I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms > Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies **so you can help your neighbour** Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them
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I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms

Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies so you can help your neighbour

Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them

no, but I suggest you go argue with the FSF about that...

> > I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms > > > Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies **so you can help your neighbour** > > Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them > > no, but I suggest you go argue with the FSF about that...
wanderer added this to the General project 2022-02-28 16:57:43 +01:00
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p.s. somebody once said "pics or it didn't happen"
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Proposing using the #StandWithUkraine used by Volodymir Zelenskyy

> p.s. somebody once said "pics or it didn't happen" > ![image](/attachments/7e152084-ee5b-4b98-ac96-165470238f28) Proposing using the #StandWithUkraine used by Volodymir Zelenskyy
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p.s. somebody once said "pics or it didn't happen"
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Proposing using the #StandWithUkraine used by Volodymir Zelenskyy

yeah, I am no longer a hashtag lover, so I vote we go with what's already there.

> > p.s. somebody once said "pics or it didn't happen" > > ![image](/attachments/7e152084-ee5b-4b98-ac96-165470238f28) > > Proposing using the #StandWithUkraine used by Volodymir Zelenskyy yeah, I am no longer a hashtag lover, so I vote we go with what's already there.
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I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms

Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies so you can help your neighbour

Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them

no, but I suggest you go argue with the FSF about that...

Did:

Trying to do more to support ukraine and cripple russian's infra

> > > I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms > > > > > Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies **so you can help your neighbour** > > > > Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them > > > > > > no, but I suggest you go argue with the FSF about that... Did: * https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2022-02/msg00635.html * https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-02/msg00055.html Trying to do more to support ukraine and cripple russian's infra
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I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms

Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies so you can help your neighbour

Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them

no, but I suggest you go argue with the FSF about that...

Did:

Trying to do more to support ukraine and cripple russian's infra

perhaps don't go about discussing the minutiae in public places like this..., also, I believe they'll rot in hell without your help.

> > > > I also have to note that I believe this is quite contrary to the principles and ideas of 'free software', that grants the 4 freedoms > > > > > > > Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute and make copies **so you can help your neighbour** > > > > > > Giving my software to fascistic war criminal is not helping my neighbour, it's killing them > > > > > > > > > > no, but I suggest you go argue with the FSF about that... > > Did: > * https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2022-02/msg00635.html > * https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-02/msg00055.html > > Trying to do more to support ukraine and cripple russian's infra perhaps don't go about discussing the minutiae in public places like this..., also, I believe they'll rot in hell without your help.
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